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 DAY, St Michaels, St Albans, 19th Century

December 2001

Jan Johnston (kajanbo @t hotmail.com), of Western Australia, on the Rootsweb Message Board, wrote Looking for information on a William and Sarah Day who were living in Portland Street in St Albans, around the 1890 to 1900's. Trying to find out if they lived there any earlier, and if so, what their children's names were. Any information would be great. Thanks....

 The family is listed on the 1881 census in Portland Street, St Michaels, St Albans.

William DAY

Head

40

General Lab

Harpenden

Sarah DAY

Wife

35

Needlework

Cheapside

Edward DAY

Son

15

Errand Boy

St Albans

Minnie DAY

Daur

13

Straw Work

St Albans

Fred DAY

Son

11

Scholar

St Albans

Jane DAY

Daur

7

Scholar

St Albans

Ernest DAY

Son

4

Scholar

St Albans

Harry DAY

Son

3 m

 

St Albans

Their house was only a few doors from the Blue Lion, Portland Street, and many of the nearby households contained straw workers (see under Straw Industry on the Occupations page) or people who worked at the Silk Mill on the River Ver below the Abbey. William Day was born at Harpenden, but it is not clear where Cheapside was in Hertfordshire - there was one in Hemel Hempstead but there may have been others. Your may be able to get a less ambiguous place of birth for her from the 1871 census (available to order on microfilm at your nearest LDS family history centre) or the 1891 census (available online in 2002).

Thirty years earlier, at the time of the 1851 census, William Day was with his parents, in Pound Field, St Michaels:

William DAY

Head

41

Agric Lab

Harpenden

Sophia DAY

Wife

40

 

Harpenden

Charles DAY

Son

15

Hat Maker

St Michaels

Emma DAY

Dau

13

Hat Maker

Harpenden

William DAY

Son

11

Hat Maker

Harpenden

Hannah DAY

Dau

7

Hat Maker

Harpenden

George DAY

Son

3

 

St Michaels

Martha DAY

Dau

9m

 

St Michaels

It is almost certain that the children were making straw hats.

Knowing your William's parents name allows a return to the 1881 census which has the following entry for part of the Blue Lion, Portland Street.

Sophia DAY

Head - Widow

71

Baker

Harpenden

Charles DAY

Son - Married

45

 

St Albans

Martha DAY

Dau - Unmarried

30

Straw Hat Finisher

St Albans

William's mother was living just a few doors down the road.- I haven't checked the 1881 census but perhaps some of William's other brothers were somewhere in the neighbourhood.

Jan Johnston (kajanbo @t hotmail.com) replied: Thanks for all the information Chris, you have been very helpful.  I had seen the "DAY" family on the 1891 census, but some of the older children were missing.  This earlier census gives their details and that's what I was looking for.  Now I am just waiting on my Grandmother's birth certificate from the U.K to try and see if either of the girls listed are her mother, as she isn't sure on her Mum's first name ? 

I have spent many hours looking over your web site, it is very interesting.  My Grandmother who is 92 was here last week- end having a look at some of the pictures, and she saw one of 'Fishpool Street' that has her old house on it.  Very exciting for her indeed.  Just about all my roots are from the St Albans area, so it's nice to be able to see some of it on the web.  I visited there about 10 years ago, before I was interested in my family tree, and now I'm kicking myself for not taking more photo's and video. 

June 2005

Roy Hull (RoyBernardHull @t aol.com) provides some information on William and Sarah Day who were living in Portland Street in St Albans, around the 1890 to 1900's. Their daughter Minnie Helen married Ernest Hull in 1889, who is my Great Grandfather.  From my family history research I have found the following:

William Day was born in Harpenden on 31/12/1839.  He married Sarah Swain at the Wesleyan Chapel, St Albans on 3/9/1865.  Sarah was born at Sleap's Hyde (not Cheapside - probably census collector thought he heard Cheapside).  Sleap's Hyde is close to Colney Heath near St Albans.  She was born 24/9/1845, the daughter of Edward Swain and Sarah NewmanIsabella Day (relation not known) and Charles Day (brother) were witnesses at the wedding.  The 1871 census has them living at Portland Street, with children:  John F. (aged 5, scholar), Minnie (aged 3) and Fred (aged 1).  At that time William's occupation was "Fish Dealer", and Sarah's "Needleworker".  I also established that William's parents were William and Sophia Day (maiden name Deamer).  At the time of William's birth, William (snr)'s occupation was Agricultural labourer.  By the time of William and Sarah's marriage, William (Snr) was a master baker, and the family were living at Portland Street: Sarah's residence was Hill Street, St Albans.

If, as seems likely, Cheapside is a mis-hearing of Sleap's Hyde it would suggest that no-one in the family could read and write well enough to fill in the forms. (In any case my earlier comment about Cheapside was wrong - there is a Cheapside Farm only a mile or so from where the family was living!)

September 2007

The query, Pound Field, St Michaels, St Albans, 19th Century, shows that Pound Field was an earlier name for Portland Street.

There is a web page for St Albans

If you can add to the information given above tell me.

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