PHILBEY, Tring, 1840-1864

December, 2011

 

Colin Meager (colin @t colinmeager.co.uk) of Birmingham wrote: Jane Philbey was born Jane Meager, in 1805 and married Joseph Tomkins in December 1829. Joseph dies and she is stated to be the landlady of the Green Man in Tring in the 1839 Pigot's Directory. She marries in 1840 John Philbey ( a plumber also of Market Street ) and is the landlady at the Green Man probably up until just before her death in 1864. She is the landlady in the 1861 census.

In the William Brown archives there seems to be a folio 81 "Mrs Jane Philbey" and that may well relate to her ownership of the Green Man and I would love to know more. I also found the "Gaslight comes to Tring" article [Bucks Advertiser 7th September 1850 - see This is Tring] which says "reflects great credit on Mrs. Philby, the worthy landlady". I would also be really interested if there are any archives or obituaries as she was a local landlady for almost 30 years.

The entry in William Brown's Account book   is short and not typical of the entries in the book. There are three entries, two of which are clearly for work done in connection with property at Gravelly, which was in the area of Tring between what is now Park Road and Western Road, which was being developed for housing at the time to form what was often referred to as Tring's "West End" and which is now referred to as the Tring Triangle.

The first entry "To staking out acre of ground at Gravelly Furlong  2" is undated and struck through. It is not clear whether the land was sold but the fact that the area needed to be staked out suggests it was part of a larger plot.

The second entry "1852 Apr 7: To staking out 20 poles of ground sold to Mr Stephen Gates 10/-"  is also struck through. Stephen Gates is listed in the 1851 census as a timber carter living in Frogmore Street, Tring. This probably relates to the land owned at Gravelly.

The third entry "1859 Oct 31: Staking out piece of Land in Gravelly purchased by Rawlins & drawing an Agreement with him for same 10 poles 15/-" is in effect struck through with a vertical line across all entries. The 1861 census lists John Rawlins as a tinman living at Gravelly Furlong, possibly the son of William Rawlins, who was a brazier living in nearby Akeman Street in 1851. It could well be that the 1861 house was built on the plot and the houses described as being in "Gravelly Furlong" were in what is now known as King Street.

The opposite page is blank showing that William Brown was never paid for the work!

In fact there is probably a very simple explanation. If you look at the Bucks Herald online (British Newspaper Archive) you will find the William Brown held a number of auctions at the Green Man and the payments were presumably waived in return for the use of the Green Man's facilities.

A quick search of the British Newspaper Archive (for the Bucks Herald) found a number of entries referring to Jane Philbey at the Green Man, Tring, including a couple referring to her estate after her death, but I didn't see any obvious obituary, and I suspect that if there was anything it would only have been a short paragraph mixed in with some other Tring news. Another paper which might carry relevant news items but which is not [yet] indexed is the Bucks Advertiser.

I have found another reference to Philbey in Brewers in Hertfordshire which reads "The Green Man in the lower High Street also had its own brewhouse where John Philby was brewing in the 1840s and John Woodman from c1878 to 1895. The brewery was also demolished [with the Green Man] by the Rothschilds to form part of [what is now] the memorial gardens."

See TOMPKINS, Tring, late 18th/early 19th Century for more about the Tompkins family and the Green Man public house

January 2012

Colin replies: Thank you so much for this I find it really fascinating and a very absorbing ( and time consuming ) activity !  The British Newspaper archive is a great new tool and through that I found the notice of marriage of Janes niece  in Chicago which was something that I had been searching for proof of for many years. Janes brother Thomas Meager and then his widow, also Jane, kept The Harrow on Akeman Street also for many years so it obviously runs in the blood !

It is interesting to note the family connection between the Green Man and The Harrow, which is long gone - although the name Harrow Yard still remains.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marriage 13 December 1832

All Souls, St Marylebone, London

Charles Philbey

 

Children baptised - no date/place given

Philippa Jane Philbey

Male

Elizabeth Philbey

Thirza Tomkins

 

       

1838/9 Pigots Directory, Tring

Charles Philbey   Plumbers, Painters & Glaziers Akeman Street

John Philbey

 

(Auctioneers & Appraisers) Appraiser

Market Street

  Plumbers, Painters & Glaziers

 

Agent for Norwich Union

 

 

 

 

1841 Census - Market Street, Tring

 

 

 

 

       

 

 

 

 

1841 Census - Akeman Street, Tring

Charles Philbey

30

Painter, etc

Hertfordshire

Thirza Philbey

25

 

Hertfordshire

Ann Philbey

7

 

Hertfordshire

John Philbey

4

 

Hertfordshire

Elizabeth Philbey

1

 

Hertfordshire

1841 Census - Akeman Street, Tring

Thomas Springwell 35 Baker Hertfordshire
Anna Springwell 35   Hertfordshire
Joseph Cheshire 20 Baker No

1841 Census - Akeman Street, Tring

John Glenister 20 Land Surveyor Hertfordshire
Harriett Glenister 20   No
Eliza Glenister 50   No
Helen Glenister 15   Hertfordshire
Alexander Parkes 20 Land Surveyor No
Rebecca Parkes 20   Hertfordshire
       
       

Birth [Ancestry Family Tree]

Philippa Jane Philbey 0 12 February 1842 Tring

Death Registration - April-June 1843

Charles Philbey     Berkhamsted

Marriage at St Mary Church, Marylebone, London  12 August 1844

Joseph Cheshire Bachelor, Baker, son of William Cheshire, Baker
Thirza Philby Spinster [sic], daughter of Joseph Philbey, Publican [sic]
       
       

1851 Census - Green Man Inn, High Street, Tring

Jane Philbey 47 Widow, Inn Keeper Berkhamsted
Ann Philbey 17 Visitor, Dressmaker Tring
George Meager 16 Nephew, Painter's Apprentice Leighton Buzzard, Beds
John Meager 12 Nephew, Scholar Aylesbury, Bucks
Ann Roberts 22 House Servant Bicester, Bucks [Oxon]

1851 Census - High Street, Tring. (2 doors from Green Man)

Ebenezer C Bird [?] C Bird 24 Widower. Bookseller & Printer employing 2 men Henley on Thames, Oxon
Eliza Glenister 59 Widow, Annuitant Stanstead Mont..., Essex
Eliza M Glenister 9 Scholar Tring
Alfred Mason 28 Journeyman printer (Compositor & pressman) St Albans
Elizabeth Burch 21 House servant Tring

1851 Census - High Street, Tring. (4 doors from Green Man)

Alexander T Parkes 31 Widower. Land Agent London
Rebecca Parkes 9 Scholar Tring
Maria Parkes 6 Scholar Luton, Beds
Robert W H Parkes 26 Brother London
Maria Griffin 24 House Servant Lugershall, Bucks
       
       
       
       
       

1851 Census - Aylesbury Road, Tring

Joseph Cheshire 30 Baker Aylesbury, Bucks
Thiriza Cheshire 36   Tring
Golder Philbey 14 [Step son], Scholar Tring
Elizabeth Philbey 12 [Step-daughter], Scholar Tring
Jane Philbey 10 [Step-daughter], Scholar Tring
Henry Cheshire 6 Scholar Tring
Clara Cheshire 3   Tring
Charles Cheshire 2   Tring
 
       
       
       
       
       
       
       

1861 Census - Green Man Inn, Market Street, Tring

Jane Philbey 57 Widow, Innkeeper Berkhamsted
Annie Philbey 27 Granddaughter Tring
Elizabeth Meagle 18 Niece Aylesbury, Bucks
Ann Grover 30 General Servant Northchurch
1861 Census - Aylesbury Road, Tring
Joseph Cheshire 42 Baker Aylesbury, Bucks
Thirza Cheshire 45   Tring
Philippa Philbey 19 Stepdaughter Tring
Henry Cheshire 16   Tring
Clara Cheshire 14   Tring
Charles Cheshire 12   Tring
Caroline Cheshire 9   Tring
William Cheshire 3   Tring

1861 Census - High Street, Tring

Alexander T Parkes 41 Widower. Land Agent & Surveyor Southwark, Surrey
Rebikah Parkes 19   Tring
Maria Parkes 16   Luton, Beds
Samuel Parkes 30 Brother. Surveyor's Assistant Cheam, Surrey
Eleanor Orange 67 Visitor London
Sarah Harding 36 Domestic Servant Bierton, Bucks
Elizabeth Glenister 30 Domestic Servant Hawridge, Bucks
       
       
       
       

1871 Census - High Street, Tring

Alexander T Parkes 51 Land Agent & Surveyor  
Annie Parkes 37   Tring
Maria Parkes 26   Luton, Beds
Louise Alexandra Parkes 5   Tring
Frank William Parkes 3   Tring
Fanny Elizth Parkes 1   Tring
Elizth Peyton 25 Servant Monks Risborough, Bucks
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       
       

1881 Census - 9 High Street, Tring

Alexr Thos Parkes

61

Land Agent

Southwark, Surrey

Annie Parkes

47

Wife of Land Agent

Tring

Louisa A Parkes

15

Scholar

Tring

Frank W Parkes

13

Scholar

Tring

Fanny E Parkes

11

Scholar

Tring

Arthur Polley

24

Clerk

Bishops Stortford, Herts

Edith Paxton 21 Servant Buckingham, Bucks
       
       
       

 

 

 

 

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